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Options trading in the UK
I've been purely interested in Forex for the past few years, and in the last month have been studying Mcmillan's Options as a Strategic Investment alongside the study guide (which was expensive for the number of errors it had). Alongside this I've been very loosely paper trading on thinkorswim, mainly with credit put spreads and iron condors. Looking for some general advice from people in the UK re options trading. What brokers allow trading of US equity options, what else I should consider, minimum account size, trading platforms, etc. Any help would be appreciated.
So, I'm fairly new to trading. I'd been using TDA and thinkorswim for the past year, but recently switched over to TWS for various reasons. I'm only trading equities and options, no forex, futures, or commodities yet. I was browsing the subscriptions for level 2 data streaming, and it got a little overwhelming. I was just wondering if anyone could just tip me off to the minimum I should subscribe to for occasional day trading? The level 2 included with TDA was fine for me. I am mostly a swing tradeinvestor, but I still want to day trade as much as I can without breaking the PDT rule. Any help is appreciated, thanks!
I just started learning how to trade options from piranha profit, but he uses thinkorswim, im nigerian and thinkorswim doesnt support Nigeria, i still havent found an alternative, all others am seeing are mainly for forex
So I was planning on using thinkorswim which has a very nice userface that i got pretty used to while papertrading, but apparently you have to get approved for a few different things before you can trade forex on there. Got denied for options for some reason, so I have to wait 90(?) days to reapply. Well I'm a pretty impatient boi so thats not gonna work for me, i will continue using it to paper trade and will eventually move back there once it gets approved but in the mean time Im wondering what the concensus is on other platforms simply from the userface side.
Pro tip for new people trying to use TD Ameritrades thinkorswim and getting approved for Forex trading
If youre like me and have 0 experience trading options but want to use thinkorswim to trade forex, you may run into the issue of having to be approved for their teir 2 options trading. It may be no issue for most, but for myself I filled everything out and wasnt even allowed to apply due to (honestly) filling out my profile and saying I have no experience trading options. They wont even allow you to do the application. Then if you go and, uh, fudge some numbers, youll still have to wait 60 days because you changed information on your profile. Im a big impatient guy and am comfortable with paper trading and wanted to move on to some low dollar trading so I messaged them. They basically just told me to do the options trading courses on their website, fill out a copy of the application and send it and the certification for the courses to them in a message. You will not have to wait the 60 days and are more likely to get approved. This is probably a problem that all of 3 other people will run into this year but just thought I'd put it out there for anyone who needs it.
So here it is, three more days and October begins, which marks one year of trading for me. I figured I would contribute to the forum and share some of my experience, a little about me, and what I've learned so far. Whoever wants to listen, that's great. This might get long so buckle up.. Three years ago, I was visiting Toronto. I don't get out much, but my roommate at the time travels there occasionally. He asked everyone at our place if we wanted to come along for a weekend. My roommate has an uncle that lives there and we didn't have to worry about a hotel because his uncle owns a small house that's unlived in which we could stay at. I was the only one to go with. Anyways, we walk around the city, seeing the sights and whatnot. My friend says to me "where next?" "I don't know, you're the tour guide" "We can go check out Bay Street" "what's 'Bay Street?'" "It's like the Canadian Wall street! If you haven't seen it you gotta see it!" Walking along Bay, I admire all the nice buildings and architecture, everything seems larger than life to me. I love things like that. The huge granite facades with intricate designs and towering pillars to make you think, How the fuck did they make that? My attention pivots to a man walking on the sidewalk opposite us. His gait stood out among everyone, he walked with such a purpose.. He laughed into the cell phone to his ear. In the elbow-shoving city environment, he moved with a stride that exuded a power which not only commanded respect, but assumed it. I bet HE can get a text back, hell he's probably got girls waiting on him. This dude was dressed to kill, a navy suit that you could just tell from across the street was way out of my budget, it was a nice fucking suit. I want that. His life, across the street, seemed a world a way from my own. I've worn a suit maybe twice in my life. For my first communion, it was too big for me, I was eleven or whatever so who gives a shit, right? I'm positive I looked ridiculous. The other time? I can't remember. I want that. I want the suit. I want the wealth, the independence.I want the respect and power, and I don't give a shit what anyone thinks about it. Cue self doubt. Well, He's probably some rich banker's son. That's a world you're born into. I don't know shit about it. \sigh* keep walking..* A year later, I'm visiting my parents at their house, they live an hour away from my place. My dad is back from Tennessee, his engineering job was laying people off and he got canned... Or he saw the end was near and just left... I don't know, hard to pay attention to the guy honestly because he kind of just drones on and on. ("Wait, so your mom lives in Michigan, but your dad moved to Tennessee... for a job?" Yea man, I don't fucking know, not going to touch on that one.) The whole project was a shit show that was doomed to never get done, the way he tells it. And he's obviously jaded from multiple similar experiences at other life-sucking engineer jobs. My mom is a retired nurse practitioner who no longer works because of her illness. I ask him what he's doing for work now and he tells me he trades stocks from home. I didn't even know you could do that. I didn't know "trading" was a thing. I thought you just invest and hope for the best. "Oh that's cool, how much money do you need to do that?" "Ehh, most say you need at least $25,000 as a minimum" "Oh... guess I can't do that..." Six months later, I get a call and it's my dad. We talk a little about whatever. Off topic, he starts asking if I'm happy doing what I'm doing (I was a painter, commercial and residential) I tell him yes but it's kind of a pain in the ass and I don't see it as a long term thing. Then he gets around to asking if I'd like to come work with him. He basically pitches it to me. I'm not one to be sold on something, I'm always skeptical. So I ask all the questions that any rational person would ask and he just swats them away with reassuring phrases. He was real confident about it. But basically he says for this to work, I have to quit my job and move back home so he can teach me how to trade and be by my side so I don't do anything stupid. "My Name, you can make so much money." I say that I can't raise the $25,000 because I'm not far above just living paycheck to paycheck. "I can help you out with that." Wow, okay, well... let me think about it. My "maybe" very soon turned into a "definitely." So over the next six months, I continue to work my day job painting, and I try to save up what I could for the transition (it wasn't a whole lot, I sucked at saving. I was great at spending though!). My dad gives me a book on day trading (which I will mention later) and I teach myself what I can about the stock market using Investopedia. Also in the meantime, my dad sends me encouraging emails. He tells me to think of an annual income I would like to make as a trader, and used "more than $100,000 but less than a million" as a guideline. He tells me about stocks that he traded that day or just ones that moved and describes the basic price action and the prices to buy and sell at. Basically saying "if you bought X amount of shares here and sold it at X price here, you could make a quick 500 bucks!" I then use a trading sim to trade those symbols and try to emulate what he says. Piece of cake. ;) Wow, that's way more than what I make in a day. He tells me not to tell anyone about my trading because most people just think it's gambling. "Don't tell your Mom either." He says most people who try this fail because they don't know how to stop out and take a loss. He talks about how every day he was in a popular chatroom, some noob would say something like, "Hey guys, I bought at X price (high of day or thereabout), my account is down 80% .. uhh I'm waiting for it to come back to my entry price.. what do I do??" Well shit, I'm not that fucking dumb. If that's all it takes to make it is to buy low, sell high, and always respect a stop then I'll be fantastic. By the end of September, I was very determined. I had been looking forward everyday to quitting my painting job because while it used to be something I loved, it was just sucking the life out of me at this point. Especially working commercial, you just get worked like a dog. I wasn't living up to my potential with that job and I felt awful for it every minute of every day. I knew that I needed a job where I could use my brain instead of slaving my body to fulfill someone else's dream. "Someone's gotta put gas in the boss's boat" That's a line my buddy once said that he probably doesn't know sticks with me to this day. It ain't me. So now it was October 2018, and I'm back living with Mom n' Pops. I was so determined that on my last day of work I gave away all of my painting tools to my buddy like, "here, I don't need this shit." Moving out of my rental was easy because I don't own much, 'can't take it with ya.' Excited for the future I now spend my days bundled up in winter wear in the cold air of our hoarder-like basement with a space heater at my feet. My laptop connected to a TV monitor, I'm looking at stocks next to my dad and his screens in his cluttered corner. Our Trading Dungeon. I don't trade any money, (I wasn't aware of any real-time sim programs) I just watch and learn from my dad. Now you've got to keep in mind, and look at a chart of the S&P, this is right at the beginning of Oct '18, I came in right at the market top. Right at the start of the shit-show. For the next three or four weeks, I watch my dad pretty much scratch on every trade, taking small loss after small loss, and cursing under his breath at the screen. Click. "dammit." Click. "shit." Click. Click. "you fuck." Click. This gets really fucking annoying as time goes on, for weeks, and I get this attitude like ugh, just let me do it. I'll make us some fucking money. So I convince him to let me start trading live. I didn't know anything about brokers so I set up an account using his broker, which was Fidelity. It was a pain and I had to jump through a lot of hoops to be able to day trade with this broker. I actually had to make a joint account with my dad as I couldn't get approved for margin because my credit score is shit (never owned a credit card) and my net worth, not much. Anyways, they straight up discourage day trading and I get all kinds of warning messages with big red letters that made me shit myself like oooaaahhh what the fuck did I do now. Did I forget to close a position?? Did I fat finger an order? Am I now in debt for thousands of dollars to Fidelity?? They're going to come after me like they came after Madoff. Even after you are approved for PDT you still get these warning messages in your account. Some would say if I didn't comply with "whatever rule" they'd even suspend my account for 60 days. It was ridiculous, hard to describe because it doesn't make sense, and it took the support guy on the phone a good 20 minutes to explain it to me. Basically I got the answer "yea it's all good, you did nothing wrong. As long as you have the cash in your account to cover whatever the trade balance was" So I just kept getting these warnings that I had to ignore everyday. I hate Fidelity. My fist day trading, I made a few so-so trades and then I got impatient. I saw YECO breaking out and I chased, soon realized I chased, so I got out. -$500. Shit, I have to make that back, I don't want my dad to see this. Got back in. Shit. -$400. So my first day trading, I lost $900. My dumbass was using market orders so that sure didn't help. I reeled the risk back and traded more proper position size for a while, but the commissions for a round trip are $10, so taking six trades per day, I'm losing $60 at a minimum on top of my losing trades. Quickly I realized I didn't know what the hell I was doing. What about my dad? Does HE know? One day, in the trading dungeon, I was frustrated with the experience I'd been having and just feeling lost overall. I asked him. "So, are you consistently profitable?" "mmm... I do alright." "Yea but like, are you consistently profitable over time?" ......................... "I do alright." Silence. "Do you know any consistently profitable traders?" "Well the one who wrote that book I gave you, Tina Turner.. umm and there's Ross Cameron" ...................... "So you don't know any consistently profitable traders, personally.. People who are not trying to sell you something?" "no." ................... Holy fucking shit, what did this idiot get me into. He can't even say it to my face and admit it. This entire life decision, quitting my job, leaving my rental, moving from my city to back home, giving shit away, it all relied on that. I was supposed to be an apprentice to a consistently profitable day trader who trades for a living. It was so assumed, that I never even thought to ask! Why would you tell your son to quit his job for something that you yourself cannot do? Is this all a scam? Did my dad get sold a DREAM? Did I buy into some kind of ponzi scheme? How many of those winning trades he showed me did he actually take?Are there ANY consistently profitable DAY TRADERS who TRADE FOR A LIVING?Why do 90% fail? Is it because the other 10% are scamming the rest in some way? Completely lost, I just had no clue what was what. If I was going to succeed at this, if it was even possible to succeed at this, it was entirely up to me. I had to figure it out. I still remember the feeling like an overwhelming, crushing weight on me as it all sunk in. This is going to be a big deal.. I'm not the type to give up though. In that moment, I said to myself, I'm going to fucking win at this. I don't know if this is possible, but I'm going to find out. I cannot say with certainty that I will succeed, but no matter what, I will not give up. I'm going to give all of myself to this. I will find the truth. It was a deep moment for me. I don't like getting on my soapbox, but when I said those things, I meant it. I really, really meant it. I still do, and I still will. Now it might seem like I'm being hard on my dad. He has done a lot for me and I am very grateful for that. We're sarcastic as hell to each other, I love the bastard. Hell, I wouldn't have the opportunity to trade at all if not for him. But maybe you can also understand how overwhelmed I felt at that time. Not on purpose, of course he means well. But I am not a trusting person at all and I was willing to put trust into him after all the convincing and was very disappointed when I witnessed the reality of the situation. I would have structured this transition to trading differently, you don't just quit your job and start trading. Nobody was there to tell me that! I was told quite the opposite. I'm glad it happened anyway, so fuck it. I heard Kevin O'Leary once say, "If I knew in the beginning how difficult starting a business was, I don't know that I ever would've started." This applies very much to my experience. So what did I do? Well like everyone I read and read and Googled and Youtube'd my ass off. I sure as hell didn't pay for a course because I didn't have the money and I'm like 99% sure I would be disappointed by whatever they were teaching as pretty much everything can be found online or in books for cheap or free. Also I discovered Thinkorswim and I used that to sim trade in real-time for three months. This is way the hell different than going on a sim at 5x speed and just clicking a few buy and sell buttons. Lol, useless. When you sim trade in real-time you're forced to have a routine, and you're forced to experience missing trades with no chance to rewind or skip the boring parts. That's a step up because you're "in it". I also traded real money too, made some, lost more than I made. went back to sim. Traded live again, made some but lost more, fell back to PDT. Dad fronted me more cash. This has happened a few times. He's dug me out of some holes because he believes in me. I'm fortunate. Oh yeah, about that book my dad gave me. It's called A Beginner's Guide to Day Trading Online by Toni Turner. This book... is shit. This was supposed to be my framework for how to trade and I swear it's like literally nothing in this book fucking works lol. I could tell this pretty early on, intuitively, just by looking at charts. It's basically a buy-the-breakout type strategy, if you want to call it a strategy. No real methodology to anything just vague crap and showing you cherry-picked charts with entries that are way too late. With experience in the markets you will eventually come to find that MOST BREAKOUTS FAIL. It talks about support/resistance lines and describes them as, "picture throwing a ball down at the floor, it bounces up and then it bounces down off the ceiling, then back up." So many asinine assumptions. These ideas are a text book way of how to trade like dumb money. Don't get me wrong, these trades can work but you need to be able to identify the setups which are more probable and identify reasons not to take others. So I basically had to un-learn all that shit. Present day, I have a routine in place. I'm out of the dungeon and trade by myself in my room. I trade with a discount broker that is catered to day traders and doesn't rape me on commissions. My mornings have a framework for analyzing the news and economic events of the particular day, I journal so that I can recognize what I'm doing right and where I need to improve. I record my screens for later review to improve my tape reading skills. I am actually tracking my trades now and doing backtesting in equities as well as forex. I'm not a fast reader but I do read a lot, as much as I can. So far I have read about 17-18 books on trading and psychology. I've definitely got a lot more skilled at trading. As of yet I am not net profitable. Writing that sounds like selling myself short though, honestly. Because a lot of my trades are very good and are executed well. I have talent. However, lesser quality trades and trades which are inappropriately sized/ attempted too many times bring down that P/L. I'm not the type of trader to ignore a stop, I'm more the trader that just widdles their account down with small losses. I trade live because at this point, sim has lost its value, live trading is the ultimate teacher. So I do trade live but I just don't go big like I did before, I keep it small. I could show you trades that I did great on and make people think I'm killing it but I really just don't need the validation. I don't care, I'm real about it. I just want to get better. I don't need people to think I'm a genius, I'm just trying to make some money. Psychologically, to be honest with you, I currently feel beaten down and exhausted. I put a lot of energy into this, and sometimes I work myself physically sick, it's happened multiple times. About once a week, usually Saturday, I get a headache that lasts all day. My body's stress rebound mechanism you might call it. Getting over one of those sick periods now, which is why I barely even traded this week. I know I missed a lot of volatility this week and some A+ setups but I really just don't give a shit lol. I just currently don't have the mental capital, I think anyone who's been day trading every day for a year or more can understand what I mean by that. I'm still being productive though. Again, I'm not here to present an image of some badass trader, just keeping it real. To give something 100% day after day while receiving so much resistance, it takes a toll on you. So a break is necessary to avoid making bad trading decisions. That being said, I'm progressing more and more and eliminating those lesser quality trades and identifying my bad habits. I take steps to control those habits and strengthen my good habits such as having a solid routine, doing review and market research, taking profits at the right times, etc. So maybe I can give some advice to some that are new to day trading, those who are feeling lost, or just in general thinking "...What the fuck..." I thought that every night for the first 6 months lol. First of all, manage expectations. If you read my story of how I came to be a trader, you can see I had a false impression of trading in many aspects. Give yourself a realistic time horizon to how progress should be made. Do not set a monetary goal for yourself, or any time-based goal that is measured in your P/L. If you tell yourself, "I want to make X per day, X per week, or X per year" you're setting yourself up to feel like shit every single day when it's clear as the blue sky that you won't reach that goal anytime soon. As a matter of fact, it will appear you are moving further AWAY from that goal if you just focus on your P/L, which brings me to my next point. You will lose money. In the beginning, most likely, you will lose money. I did it, you'll do it, the greatest Paul Tudor Jones did it. Trading is a skill that needs to be developed, and it is a process. Just look at it as paying your tuition to the market. Sim is fine but don't assume you have acquired this skill until you are adept at trading real money. So when you do make that leap, just trade small. Just survive. Trade small. get the experience. Protect your capital. To reach break even on your bottom line is a huge accomplishment. In many ways, experience and screen time are the secret sauce. Have a routine. This is very important. I actually will probably make a more in-depth post in the future about this if people want it. When I first started, I was overwhelmed with the feeling "What the fuck am I supposed to DO?" I felt lost. There's no boss to tell you how to be productive or how to find the right stocks, which is mostly a blessing, but a curse for new traders. All that shit you see, don't believe all that bullshit. You know what I'm talking about. The bragposting, the clickbait Youtube videos, the ads preying on you. "I made X amount of money in a day and I'm fucking 19 lolz look at my Lamborghini" It's all a gimmick to sell you the dream. It's designed to poke right at your insecurities, that's marketing at it's finest. As for the bragposting on forums honestly, who cares. And I'm not pointing fingers on this forum, just any trading forum in general. They are never adding anything of value to the community in their posts. They never say this is how I did it. No, they just want you to think they're a genius. I can show you my $900 day trading the shit out of TSLA, but that doesn't tell the whole story. Gamblers never show you when they lose, you might never hear from those guys again because behind the scenes, they over-leveraged themselves and blew up. Some may actually be consistently profitable and the trades are 100% legit. That's fantastic. But again, I don't care, and you shouldn't either. You shouldn't compare yourself to others. "Everyone's a genius in a bull market" Here's the thing.. Markets change. Edges disappear. Trading strategies were made by traders who traded during times when everything they did worked. Buy all the breakouts? Sure! It's the fucking tech bubble! Everything works! I'm sure all those typical setups used to work fantastically at some point in time. But the more people realize them, the less effective they are. SOMEONE has to be losing money on the opposite side of a winning trade, and who's willing to do that when the trade is so obvious? That being said, some things are obvious AND still work. Technical analysis works... sometimes. The caveat to that is, filters. You need to, in some way, filter out certain setups from others. For example, you could say, "I won't take a wedge pattern setup on an intraday chart unless it is in a higher time frame uptrend, without nearby resistance, and trading above average volume with news on that day." Have a plan. If you can't describe your plan, you don't have one. Think in probabilities. You should think entirely in "if, then" scenarios. If X has happens, then Y will probably happen. "If BABA breaks this premarket support level on the open I will look for a pop up to short into." Backtest. Most traders lose mainly because they think they have an edge but they don't. You read these books and all this stuff online telling you "this is a high probability setup" but do you know that for a fact? There's different ways to backtest, but I think the best way for a beginner is manual backtesting with a chart and an excel sheet. This builds up that screen time and pattern recognition faster. This video shows how to do that. Once I saw someone do it, it didn't seem so boring and awful as I thought it was. Intelligence is not enough. You're smarter than most people, that's great, but that alone is not enough to make you money in trading necessarily. Brilliant people try and fail at this all the time, lawyers, doctors, surgeons, engineers.. Why do they fail if they're so smart? It's all a fucking scam. No, a number of reasons, but the biggest is discipline and emotional intelligence. Journal every day.K no thanks, bro. That's fucking gay. That's how I felt when I heard this advice but really that is pride and laziness talking. This is the process you need to do to learn what works for you and what doesn't. Review the trades you took, what your plan was, what actually happened, how you executed. Identify what you did well and what you can work on. This is how you develop discipline and emotional intelligence, by monitoring yourself. How you feel physically and mentally, and how these states affect your decision-making. Always be learning. Read as much as you can. Good quality books. Here's the best I've read so far; Market Wizards -Jack Schwager One Good Trade -Mike Bellafiore The Daily Trading Coach -Bret Steenbarger Psycho-cybernetics -Maxwell Maltz Why You Win or Lose -Fred Kelly The Art and Science of Technical Analysis -Adam Grimes Dark Pools -Scott Patterson Be nimble. Everyday I do my research on the symbols I'm trading and the fundamental news that's driving them. I might be trading a large cap that's gapping up with a beat on EPS and revenue and positive guidance. But if I see that stock pop up and fail miserably on the open amidst huge selling pressure, and I look and see the broader market tanking, guess what, I'm getting short, and that's just day trading. The movement of the market, on an intraday timeframe, doesn't have to make logical sense. Adapt. In March I used to be able to buy a breakout on a symbol and swing it for the majority of the day. In the summer I was basically scalping on the open and being done for the day. Volatility changes, and so do my profit targets. Be accountable. Be humble. Be honest. I take 100% responsibility for every dime I've lost or made in the market. It's not the market makers fault, it wasn't the HFTs, I pressed the button. I know my bad habits and I know my good habits.. my strengths/ my weaknesses. Protect yourself from toxicity. Stay away from traders and people on forums who just have that negative mindset. That "can't be done" mentality. Day trading is a scam!! It can certainly be done. Prove it, you bastard. I'm posting to this particular forum because I don't see much of that here and apparently the mods to a good job of not tolerating it. As the mod wrote in the rules, they're most likely raging from a loss. Also, the Stocktwits mentality of "AAPL is going to TANK on the open! $180, here we come. $$$" , or the grandiose stories, "I just knew AMZN was going to go up on earnings. I could feel it. I went ALL IN. Options money, baby! ka-ching!$" Lol, that is so toxic to a new trader. Get away from that. How will you be able to remain nimble when this is your thought process? Be good to yourself. Stop beating yourself up. You're an entrepreneur. You're boldly going where no man has gone before. You've got balls. Acknowledge your mistakes, don't identify with them. You are not your mistakes and you are not your bad habits. These are only things that you do, and you can take action necessary to do them less. It doesn't matter what people think. Maybe they think you're a fool, a gambler. You don't need their approval. You don't need to talk to your co-workers and friends about it to satisfy some subconscious plea for guidance; is this a good idea? You don't need anyone's permission to become the person you want to be. They don't believe in you? Fuck 'em. I believe in you.
I'm trying to find information about using Forex on Mobil Thinkorswim app and it seems I cant find anything. Very few videos (many years ago on desktop app not mobil) or Q/A forums or groups.
Anybody have a website to learn more on Forex on Thinkorswim?
If I hit the trade button on any currency. It takes me into order editor. If I go to side where it gives me the option to buy or sell the currency to open. If I make an order to buy. I am saying that I think the currency will go up therefore making money when the price is going up. If I make an order to sell. I am saying that I think the currency will go down therefore making money when the price is going down.
Is that true?
When I choose a side of either buy/sell, it only let's me buy in 10,000 quantity. It wont let me buy lower than that which is fine. And I hit confirm. It takes me to the order confirmation. At the very button it tells me Forex Buying Power Effect $xxxxxxxxx and below that Resulting Buying Power for Forex $xxxxxxxxxx. They both are the same amount. Is that everything I have to do to start a trade?
Hello. I use TD Ameritrade’s ThinkOrSwim platform to day trade options. I’m looking to automate some of my trading such that my auto trader should automatically place trades with my broker given certain signals (BUY credit spread, SELL Iron Condor, SELL Credit Spread etc). I tried to search online and this forum but could not find something concrete that’d get me started, so I decided to post this as a question. Please share if you have built or found something that can be used for my needs. I’d be open to revisit my choice based on the following: 1. Is there better platform out there than TDA that allows for such auto trading to be built and run? I found a few that were Forex and Futures based but not US Equities options
I’d like to build and run it locally but also open to use any cloud based solution if it allows me to shorten my time to market and I can just build my strategies quickly.
Okay I've read the FAQ, there is a TON of information and I can't find what I'm looking for... I want to start simulating in forex and I would like to do it in the same place that I'm going to open my live account in the future. I live in Canada (not from here, sorry for my english) and I would like to hear recommendations about a boker with simulating options, it doesn´t matter if it is not free, I want something good for me and the near future. I'm thinking in Ameritrade and there is the ThinkorSwim stuff that I don't really get. can you guys help me please?
Using TD Ameritrade Brokerage with NinjaTrader 8 automated strategies?
Hey Guys, I'm new to this community and haven't seen any posts on this topic, so if someone has asked/talked about this before let me know. Anyway I have been looking into algorithmic trading but currently use TD thinkorswim to execute trades manually. When searching for brokerages which allow for development of automated trading strategies I came across NinjaTrader, which seems to allow for custom strategy development and execution. The problem is that the NinjaTrader brokerage only provides service for Options, Forex, and Futures, but not Stocks/ETFs. Despite this, NT lists TD Ameritrade as a supported equity brokerage, which has me wondering if it is possible to develop a trading algo in NinjaTrader 8 and use the TD brokerage support to execute it for stocks. If I'm correct in this assumption, does anyone have experience with this/know any more on the topic? If I'm wrong, what brokerages/platforms have options for automated trading strategy development for stocks?
Hey guys, I am looking into getting into Stock Options as I want to one day make a full time income trading. I have tried daytrading stocks and found that was not enjoyable. Also have tried forex trading but felt like I was constantly losing no matter what strategy I was using. I like being able to formulate a strategy over a number of days. I watched all of tastytrades videos and am going over Option Alpha now for more review. Going to need to open a TD Direct Investing account here in Canada because I want to use the thinkorswim platform. Any Canadian options traders here? Do you guys have any tips/recommendations for me as I get started? I know any sort of trading is not easy and takes time and alot of work.
Hey everyone. A while back I made the decision to moderate this subreddit because I was once in your shoes. I honestly did not know where to begin. I would type in “daytrading” in google and come up with so many companies trying to sell me the dream. “Make $$$ while you sleep!” “Look at how much I made today!!” etc. I wanted to make this post to first give new people a place where to start and to even offer some resources that can get you started in the right direction. If I have anything else to add I will add it here.
Open up a papertrading account with Think or Swim. It is free and you can get live data just by requesting it from support. All you have to do is ask them to add live data to your papertrading account. Do not pay monthly for any papertrading account. There are a lot of free videos out there that can help you get started with Think or Swim. The program looks complicated at first but it is very powerful. I spent a few days with the program and at the end of the week I was fairly comfortable with understanding where everything was. I have never had a 60-day limit with my papertrading account by the way. https://www.thinkorswim.com/t/pm-registration.html Start here and start taking trades! It is all fake money and will give you some insight into how the program works as well as how the markets move.
One other tip for setting up your papertrading account is to only set it up with a reasonable amount of money. I know a lot of papertrading accounts give you 100k right off the bat but realistically, how many of us are going to have that much money to start out with? Set it to something more reasonable like 10-20k if you are trading forex (or even less if all you have is 1-5k to trade with) or 25k+ if you are going to daytrade stocks only because the regulations require you to have at least 25k in your account at all times to daytrade (In this case, I would probably give yourself 30k just to be safe). If you are looking for a stock screener, ThinkorSwim has a pretty good one. A personal favorite of mine is www.FINVIZ.com which has an awesome screener for finding different chart patterns and conditions (such as prices crossing above 20 bar EMA, trending up, etc) Think or Swim has stocks, forex, futures, and options. Options are an entirely different beast all together but stocks, forex, and futures are all "yes-no" type of trading while options give you a little more leeway with your mistakes. If you are interested in learning about options, message me and I can help guide you with the right direction and best resources I used to learn options. EDIT: Due to the amount of PM's I was getting, I have decided to post the options course I started with here https://www.udemy.com/learn-options-trading-courses/ You shouldn't pay more than 10 bucks for it as Udemy does a ton of sales throughout the year. You can also just do a "Udemy coupon" search on google and see what you pull up. Its about 10 hours worth of content and in my opinion it is worth every penny if you are wanting to learn more about options. There are a ton of other great classes on Udemy as well for learning just about anything. Just make sure to read the reviews! Stocks is kind of the well known market for new comers but I would argue that Forex can also just as easily be traded by a newcomer. Also the benefit of trading Forex is that there is no commission off the bat. Most brokers will charge what is called a spread of some number of pips that you are essentially paying back. Futures trade in ticks and each tick nets you a gain of some amount or a loss of some amount so I do not suggest any new person to jump into futures until you understand the way markets work. Futures charge commission on each contract you buy or sell. It can be sort of related to Forex since a tick and a pip are essentially the same. The huge benefit to trading Futures and Forex is that there is NO pattern day trading rule. This means you can buy and sell as many times as you want without being flagged for not having 25k in your account.
Tradimo is a great resource for getting your feet wet with technical analysis. It is free and shows you the ropes with how you can start looking at prices and charts: https://learn.tradimo.com/courses
If there is ever a company you want to pay to help you learn, please do your research first. Type in the company’s name along with “review” at the end of your search and make your educated decision off of that. A lot of these companies have amazing advertising but will never teach you the right way to trade. A lot of them are scams too. I read that there was one trading system which the guy had the secrets of the “code of trading” and only he knew the code but would sell it to you for hundreds of dollars. So many people come into trading with high expectations that if I just pay this company to teach me, I can be like them when in reality that may never happen. Always look at their testimonials with a grain of salt. Read the reviews just like you would on amazon for buying a product. I also like to type in the company's name and add "scam" at the end to see if I get any hits on that. Read the good reviews but also the bad to understand the bigger picture here. Very few will actually teach you how to trade. Also, Reddit is a great place to read up on things like this too. Just add "Reddit" at the end of your search and read up on other users reviews.
Investimonials is also a good place to use as well (but do not use it as your only review source!!! Fake reviews are everywhere) http://www.investimonials.com So before you drop that 1-2k on a course, make sure you do your homework. Don't be fooled by smooth advertising.
A high probability indicator or a holy grail strategy is not out there. If it was, everyone would be using it and making money. And if there does happen to be one, do you really think anyone will want to share it? The only way to get good at trading is to be able to read the charts and read where prices are going. This is through support and resistance and understanding channels. I cannot recommend Mack’s price action YouTube channel enough. https://www.youtube.com/usePATsTrading I am a firm believer that price action is the basis for understanding price movement. Reading an indicator may help but you should not rely on solely indicators to guide you with trading as they may give you a signal to buy when you are at a major resistance level or sell when you are at a major support, both of which could burn you.
My only other advice is to look into markets that let you maximize profits. For some, it is not possible to buy 1000 shares of Apple. While trading low priced stocks lets you buy hundreds and maybe even thousands of shares at once, those stocks are too unpredictable because they can be influenced by individuals who do what is called a "pump and dump" schemes. Plus they can be difficult to read as far as what they are going to be doing next (going up or going down). My recommendation (and it is only my recommendation so only use this as guidance to make your own decision) would be to look into trading forex if you do not have a lot to start out with as some brokers (like FXCM) allow you to buy "micro" lots which let you invest as little as 100 dollars in some cases and have a much better chance of working in your favor due to the amount of people trading the same instrument. Note: There are some discussions about forex market makers adjusting the markets so you get stopped out prematurely. While I have not experienced this, it could theoretically happen? So if you do decide to trade Forex make sure you pick your broker carefully and again read the reviews!
EDIT: I have read that what I mentioned above about Forex is outdated and the brokers are under stricter regulations. Do your own investigation and do not let what I said steer you away from trading forex if you really want to. The big Forex brokers you are able to open an account with in the US are FXCM, Oanda, and Forex.com. You have a lot more options if you are in another country. EDIT 2: Well it looks like FXCM may get banned from having clients in the US. Apparently they took some trades against their clients to profit on their end and have been using clients accounts to fund their extra expenses. Tread on your own risk.
Above all, do not invest money that you are not willing to lose. I cannot emphasize this enough. Work on a simulator until you feel that your strategy works. This means putting in the time to sit down and analyze every trade you took which worked as well as the ones that didn't work. You need to go back over your mistakes and review why your trade did not work the way you thought it would. Was it because you bought at a high and sold at a low? Was it because you bought at a major resistance level thinking the stock would still go up? Was it because you were impulsive and entered in too early? Was it because you were too slow and entered in too late? This is the most important part about learning how to trade. Putting in the time and work to analyze what you did right and what you did wrong. You will never get better if you do not do this.
Consider subscribing to a free daily financial newsletter such as The Morning Brew. It’s a free subscription that is delivered Monday through Friday to your email before the markets open around 5-6 am central time. It summarizes the big financial topics of the morning in short easy to read sections that you can read over a cup of brew.
I wouldn’t say this is essential for daytrading but it’s nice to read if you are wanting to stay up to date on the financial markets as they will write about companies and stocks to look out for. It’s also not spammy or filled with ads though there are one or two that are listed as “sponsored”. They don’t typically put out a weekend read but instead send it M-F. https://www.morningbrew.com/?kid=08944ba0 I want to make this subreddit not only as a resource for newcomers but also for those who wish to improve their skills with learning how to day trade. I do not want this subreddit to become spam and companies trying to sell dreams. We all need to keep a realistic vision on what learning the market entails because this is a journey. No one becomes a doctor in a day or even a week and you should expect the same becoming a trader. Making consistent money in the markets can be very challenging and most wont ever make it, but it can be very satisfying once things start to click and you can live a very different life if this ever happens.
I am a complete beginner that just signed up for an account but I am confused about the following:
Upgrading to advanced features
Applying for margin approval
Applying for options approval
Using thinkorswim vs. the web interface
If I upgrade to advanced features, it says I permanently lose tools / features that will no longer be available but I also gain features / tools as well. I am not sure if the tools I am losing are worth the tools I am gaining. Is it worth it? What do all of the tools do? I would like to invest in every asset class that TD Ameritrade has available. If possible I would like to enable everything such as futures, forex, thinkorswim, and the web interface and use them all at the same time. Is this allowed or am I only allowed to use one or the other? To enable futures and forex, it says I need to apply for both margin approval and options approval. I do not plan on ever borrowing money on margin to invest. I would rather use my own money. Should I decline margin trading on the application? For options, there are tiers 1 through 3. Should I just go for tier 3 which seems to provide the most features? Or is there a catch that I am missing that makes it more beneficial to use a lower tier?
I’ve wanted to write this for awhile and I’ll do my best to be clear. I’ve been a day tradescalper for the last four years. As in I quit my main source of income and focused on trading. I started in Forex and ended up in Futures. I am a break even trader when it comes to scalping. Even my winning months aren’t winners because of fee’s and commissions. I am not a good scalper. During this time I have traded a micro Forex account on the daily time frame. It is the most profitable I’ve done trade wise. I’ve also paper traded option Straddles/Condor’s with Thinkorswim for a few months with good results. I closed my straddles at the 50% profit mark and I always sold put straddles. All my trades where BOPB Break Out Pull Backs on the daily time frame. When I would enter I would look for a 70% IV? Hope that makes sense. I would use the analyze feature of TOS for that. I would watch the economic calendar and earnings reports to make sure my play would not get taken out. There where a couple issues I ran into though. It seems I would always be risking $1500 or $2000 to make $500-$600 per play. Which means I have an inverse R to R. Some of the stocks I traded would not always close when I wanted because of liquidity. It would take a few hours or days, even so the trades worked out. I feel like my winning streak is dumb luck, but at the same time I feel I am on to something. I Joined Alta5.com and I have been running the Tasty Condor and the Bittman Algo. I understand the Tasty Condor more than the Bittman. But the Bittman seems to work really well. When I get my head around options more I will make some custom bots and see how they do. I guess what I am looking for is how do I set up a good R to R with options? Example, day trading I would set aside $200 win or lose for my trading account. I could have a small or large stop loss, enter with 1 or 2 contracts as long as I stayed with in the $200 for a day. If I had a trade that was winning I could scale in as long as I stayed with the $200 rules. Here are screen shots of my Alta5 Bots running. What it looks like to me is that I have 25k staying in the market with a $50,000 hard cut off and unlike a naked option it looks much safer and profitable with the straddle. What am I missing from the Sim world that I would encounter in the real world? https://www.screencast.com/t/xkuzzEiaxn Picture of the tasty condor. https://www.screencast.com/t/9BITvR7iG9 Bittman algo. Thank you guys for the help.
Possible (probable) noob question here, but why I can't I view the volume for a given currency pair chart in Thinkorswim? It says that volume isn't displayed because some bars are equal to zero. While I understand what that means in and of itself, there doesn't seem to be an option to override that parameter. Obviously, forex is OTC, but shouldn't it provide volume for TD Ameritrade trades like Oanda does for its transactions?
I plan to start my live daytrading sometime within the next year. I plan to go into forex, with an extremely small ($500) account, and build up from there. Not ideal, i know, but I am a college student and bigger investments aren't really an option. I want to backtest the SHIT out of all my strategies, and I want to set up a realistic environment to do so. I believe i'm ALMOST there, but there are a few tweaks that I just don't know how to do. I am using a Thinkorswim papermoney account, which I have already linked to live data. Here are my questions;
The minimum balance I can have is 25K. I realize that's the lowest you can trade stocks with, so i'm assuming you cant override it? I wanted to simulate my actual future account size.
I have "live data" that doesn't seem to be live? I don't know if it's because my charts are set up wrong or what, but I am not seeing candlesticks develop as I watch the charts. I have the intervals turned down as low as I can, but the last candlestick on my EUUSD chart is from July 28th. Is there a way to get the minute by minute chart updates? wouldn't that be the best way to make trades?
I know its a cringey noob question, but what "numbers" for account info should I actually pay attention to? I was just looking at "Forex Buying Power". I also turned on commission based, which I am assuming makes the trades more realistic, no?
Any other tips on how to make the best backtesting environment would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Hello everyone, I am new to Reddit. I am a successful part-time trader. I trade based off of both technicals and fundamentals. I have maintained a weekly return of just below 20% every week in my trading portfolio on my day trades and swing trades. In addition, on occasion, I do FOREX and options. I started out using a small sum of money and gradually grew it into a large portfolio over the years. I am looking to help the people who are often told "you don't have enough money to begin trading," "you need at least $1,000 to begin trading," etc. In reality, in today's day in age, you can begin trading with less than $100, you just have to be realistic about how fast you can grow that sum of money into huge returns. If people say you need more than $100 to begin trading, they probably are unsuccessful traders. I want to pass on the knowledge I learned over the years in the market to help make new traders successful. I am willing to teach a handful of people a comprehensive overview of everything you need to know to be a successful day trader. I am doing this for FREE, I will NOT monetize any part of this program. I will NOT cover anything related to FOREX or options because these are for advanced traders. I will teach via live stream in groups and record these live streams for your review (live stream dates not planned as of yet). The reason I want to do live streams is so you can have your questions answered in real-time, increasing your comprehension and overall success. In addition, I plan on creating a group chat and voice chat group so I can communicate with the group on a regular basis. Email will also be another way of contacting me with questions. Eventually I will create a website if the program is a success. The platform I will use to each everyone will principally be TD Ameritrade's ThinkorSwim Platform. This software is FREE and you can download it from TD Ameritrade's website. This platform is 100% FREE to use. TD Ameritrade does NOT have to be your broker, I just teach using their software. I personally DON'T use TD Ameritrade as my broker, but I use their ThinkorSwim platform usually. For your actual broker, feel free to use any broker you want. If you don't have a broker, you can contact me and I can provide a comparison of all the popular brokers. If you want to me to teach you how to trade you must do the following: -Follow my lectures and ask questions. My goal is to pass on my knowledge and create other successful traders, this is not possible if you take shortcuts. If you do not put in 100% you will be wasting your time and my time and I will kick you out of the group. -Not expect me to tell you which companies to invest in, at what price, and what time to exit the trade. I will teach you everything you need to know, but I won't help people who are just looking for a successful trader's positions. I will live stream some of my positions after you demonstrate you are making an effort to learn. -Never invest in anything you don't know. Always do your own due diligence! -Post on this thread saying, "I have read your entire post." (so I know you read everything) -Lastly, PM me why you want to learn to trade and what you will do to ensure you are successful. Feel free to include any other information, but please limit your message to under 500 characters. I am only accepting a select amount of beginners in this program because I want it to be different than other programs. I will decide who gets in the program based on your reason for why you want to trade and why you think you will be successful at trading. I do not have an exact limit of the number of beginners I will accept to start with but it will be under 30.
Just my thoughts about the market.... https://youtu.be/0yJ93TcpXiM Inspired by the late David Elliot aka FirstWave. A video of 20 minutes of me rambling about the stock market. I'm considering doing more of these videos, but really don't know if there are many people that would be interested in them. This video is a broad overview of the market in a longer term sense, but I can do intraday analysis as well and look at shorter term trade opportunities. In this video I only talk about the S&P 500. If anybody has any interest in more specific content, let me know. I can look at pretty much any index, stock, futures contract, or forex contract. Please like and subscribe to my youtube channel if you're interested so I know to post more stuff. If nobody is interested, then I'm not going to pollute the internet with more of my blabbering. About myself... I studied David Elliot's trading method meticulously before he passed away. He used to have a chat room on the thinkorswim platform, and also had a private live trade room during the day where he mentored students. David was passionate about the market and provided tons of free mentoring to the world in regards to technical analysis. I had the privilege of being in his trade room and following his trades in real time for a couple months and learned quite a bit from him. I want to carry on his tradition of sharing knowledge about the market and cultivating a group of like minded technical traders. He used proprietary indicators, some of which are available for free through thinkorswim. I use some of those as well as his "Hinge" indicator which isn't widely available. My goal is to post daily market reviews for a broad subscriber base and - optimistically - I would like to host a live trade room where we trade futures and / or options.
Possible (probable) noob question here, but why I can't I view the volume for a given currency pair chart in Thinkorswim? It says that volume isn't displayed because some bars are equal to zero. While I understand what that means in and of itself, there doesn't seem to be an option to override that parameter. Obviously, forex is OTC, but shouldn't it provide volume for TD Ameritrade trades like Oanda does for its transactions?
I have just recently picked up a book on Forex trading, downloaded the thinkorswim platform, and now have a 60 day paper money trading account to use before going live. I have a degree Economics from a Big Ten school, so do I have a good fundamental base knowledge on both how currencies derive their value, as well as how the equity market operates. Now, about 30% into the book, I can understand that the currency pair is of no intrinsic value, nor does it appreciate over the long term in general cases (being that it is a ratio + non dividend paying), and all of the methods to identifying trends introduced so far. Now, what I don't understand is 1) What exactly you're holding when say, you go long on the USD/EUR, for example. 2) Is the currency pair market essentially all options that people are trading, and if so, how do you/ do you exercise that option in any case? And 3) Not only that but what are exactly, after a successful trade say, the mechanics behind the trade (profit derived) that will result in a an addition of money your account? That much is a bit lost on me so far, I would greatly appreciate any clarification
I'm looking for the perfect paper money trading game. Recently my game expired, and I really want a new place to play. I would invest with real money, but I am only 17 and brokerage accounts are just about 6 months out of my grasp. I'm looking for a place that allows me to trade more than just stocks. I would love for access to paper trading in stocks (domestic and international), bonds, options, FOREX, Futures contracts--the whole works. I found this an loved it in ThinkorSwim with TDAmeritrade, but I also have a competitive side I would like to appease, so I am looking for some head-to-head action. I have been playing with paper money for about two years now, with some pretty impressive returns (I think), so I need a way to see how I really stack up. It can be temporary, again soon I will have my own brokerage account to utilize. Also, if anyone else is interested, once I know what kind of program I can use, maybe we could set up a game for /investing. I'm aware that some games might already exist, but maybe not to this extent. Let me know, thanks!
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